While the antagonism between PC and console owners has raged on for years, the latter group consists of another long-running rivalry: Xbox vs PlayStation. According to recent statements by Electronic Arts, Sony is beating its competitor into the ground right now, but Microsoft disagrees with the figures.

As reported by Variety, EA CFO Blake Jorgensen was discussing the state of the game industry at the company’s recent earnings call and talked about expectations for PS4 and Xbox One sales.